July 1st 2004

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Members meeting on 01/07/2004

Our regular meeting - basically a monthly PHP PubCon - which is held on the first Thursday of every month.

Meet PHP users, professional developers and recruiters near you! Come to PHP London's July 2004 meeting to exchange ideas and talk about code, architecture, innovation, and open source in general. Anyone interested in PHP is welcome!

Where and when

The Cambridge from 7pm onwards.

Who will be there

Feel free to add your name if you're coming! Everyone who does so, links to their wiki profile page (copy the coding format of other names on the list - if it is displayed in red then you've not linked to a page that exists), and actually attends, will be entered in a random draw for a prize of £10 of drinks/food from the venue (started June 2009, still popular in summer 2010...).

Apologies for absence

If you wanted to come but can't/couldn't, feel free to explain yourself!


Agenda

If anyone has any ideas for presentations or discussion points (at any level of PHP proficiency) at the meetup, note them down here.

Note: How are we doing for laptops? Any volunteers? --Marcus Baker

One thing about the last meeting is that we didn't do any demos. I think we should have a specific slot in the agenda called the "8 O'clock demo" so that a demo is done before everybody is too pissed to show an interest (especially me) --Marcus Baker

I would be happy to do a demo of our CMS "Offline Client" tool, which is written in PHP-GTK. We also used sqlite to store data locally on the client, and implemented an incremental synchronization mechanism from Postgres DB to sqlite, based on the RSERV postgresql contrib. XMLRPC is used for client-server communication --David Heath

Hi -- I was thinking of discussing the basics of implementing an MVC (Model-View-Controller) architecture in PHP. Some frameworks exist (Phrame, for instance), but a basic MVC pattern is actually quite easy to implement, if only (initially) to explore the concept. --Matt Jones

I thnk an MVC discussion would be quite...er...interesting (I've never seen a riot at a PHP meetup). Have a look at at the advanced PHP forum on SitePoint so that you know what you are getting into. That said, if you can do a survey of tools like Mojavi, Phrame (jason is now working on WACT), WACT, etc. That would be cool. --Marcus Baker

Yep, I'd like to watch (and try and avoid getting involved in) this discussion --Jon Ramsey

Damn! Damn! Damn! (Can I say that here?) I can't attend this month, but I'd *love* to get involved in a 'heated debate' on MVC and PHP. Any chance of a live audio stream from The Cambridge so that I can listen, comment from afar and avoid the bloodshed? --Doug Boit

There's also an MVC article in the downloadable sample copy of phpArchitect: --Richard George

Doing a laptop demo with nine people (probably more) is going to be difficult. How about we do each demo (maybe twice) to a small group? If we can get two laptops then we can run the demos at 8pm and 8.30pm swapping them around. --Marcus Baker

The two laptops idea sounds sensible - anyone able to commit to bringing a laptop? -Jon Ramsey

Hello, I'm a newbie here. Am interested in joining the meet up. I went to NotCon and can give my own perspective. Whats the deal with the pub though? I'd thought that a bunch of geeks turning up with their laptops would be prime mugging material ;-) Like the sounds of this wiki, looking forward to learning a bit.


Post mortem

Despite the football at our usual venue, it was a good meeting. 12 people and more importantly 6 at the Tapas bar! Looks like PHPGtk is really easy to use as well. Cool. --Marcus Baker

As promised I will put up some notes and links on PhpGtk. I'll also try to build a "demo" data set so people can easily try out/hack/borrow from OneWorld's offline CMS editor (which is under GPL). --David Heath

Mailing lists are now Live! --Richard George


Mailing list

Richard George has kindly offered to set up a mailing list for us. This is something that has been discussed at the last couple of meetings, so bring along any ideas/concerns/objections to the meet. --Jon Ramsey

I am chasing up the DNS issue with this, but I don't see it being resolved by Thursday --Marcus Baker

Wiki

We are getting referrer spammed almost constantly. I am seriously thinking about starting a project to write our own meetup Wiki because Wakka is so god awful --Marcus Baker


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